and judy, the most revealing thin to me was the response that ryan paul got. he was the rock star of this gathering. in part it's because i think the discid over the last 12 years republican foreign policy game plan which is let's go in first and ask questions later, has been really undermined and sabotaged by both the american experience in iraq and the american experience in afghanistan. there's been a long tradition of the republican party but i think there's now a reluctance a caution that hasn't been there in the past about foreign intervention. >> woodruff: ron paul has struck a chord. >> he has at the moment. this is american leadership in the role believes america has an important role to play as a world leader including global order, free trade, free water ways, free commerce. that happens because of u.s. military. the idea of the party is not going to be that party. it happen. in the 19 20's the party shifted. for them to go back i have to sate. right now the move from the president of the other party, move intervention, move os tear taught, war exha